{"id":6428,"date":"2022-07-05T15:17:49","date_gmt":"2022-07-05T13:17:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/?p=6428"},"modified":"2024-08-01T16:56:53","modified_gmt":"2024-08-01T14:56:53","slug":"presentation-translators","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/presentation-translators\/","title":{"rendered":"A crazy brief presentation of early Dzogchen Translators"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; specialty=&#8221;on&#8221; padding_top_1=&#8221;80px&#8221; padding_top_bottom_link_1=&#8221;false&#8221; padding_left_right_link_1=&#8221;false&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;3px|||||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;2_3&#8243; specialty_columns=&#8221;2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_row_inner _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column_inner saved_specialty_column_type=&#8221;2_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;@ET-DC@eyJkeW5hbWljIjp0cnVlLCJjb250ZW50IjoicG9zdF9hdXRob3IiLCJzZXR0aW5ncyI6eyJiZWZvcmUiOiJXcml0dGVuIGJ5ICIsImFmdGVyIjoiIiwibmFtZV9mb3JtYXQiOiJkaXNwbGF5X25hbWUiLCJsaW5rIjoib24iLCJsaW5rX2Rlc3RpbmF0aW9uIjoiYXV0aG9yX2FyY2hpdmUifX0=@&#8221; image=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Photo-profil-2.jpg&#8221; icon_placement=&#8221;left&#8221; image_icon_width=&#8221;48px&#8221; content_max_width=&#8221;1100px&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _dynamic_attributes=&#8221;title,content&#8221; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; header_font=&#8221;Cardo|700|||||||&#8221; body_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; body_line_height=&#8221;1em&#8221; border_radii_image=&#8221;on|70px|70px|70px|70px&#8221; image_max_width=&#8221;48px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]@ET-DC@eyJkeW5hbWljIjp0cnVlLCJjb250ZW50IjoicG9zdF9kYXRlIiwic2V0dGluZ3MiOnsiYmVmb3JlIjoiIiwiYWZ0ZXIiOiIiLCJkYXRlX2Zvcm1hdCI6ImRlZmF1bHQiLCJjdXN0b21fZGF0ZV9mb3JtYXQiOiIifX0=@[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column_inner][\/et_pb_row_inner][et_pb_row_inner column_structure=&#8221;1_2,1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column_inner type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; saved_specialty_column_type=&#8221;2_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; max_width=&#8221;600px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>I always pictured translators with Harry Potter\u2019s round glasses, aloof and a bit high as bookworms. But not for Dzogchen, not at all.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column_inner][et_pb_column_inner type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; saved_specialty_column_type=&#8221;2_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Khyeu-Chung-Lotsawa.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;Khye&#8217;u Chung Lotsawa&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; height=&#8221;265px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column_inner][\/et_pb_row_inner][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_divider _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; show_divider=&#8221;off&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;@ET-DC@eyJkeW5hbWljIjp0cnVlLCJjb250ZW50IjoicG9zdF9jYXRlZ29yaWVzIiwic2V0dGluZ3MiOnsiYmVmb3JlIjoiIiwiYWZ0ZXIiOiIiLCJsaW5rX3RvX3Rlcm1fcGFnZSI6Im9uIiwic2VwYXJhdG9yIjoiIHwgIiwiY2F0ZWdvcnlfdHlwZSI6ImNhdGVnb3J5In19@&#8221; use_icon=&#8221;on&#8221; font_icon=&#8221;&#xe08c;||divi||400&#8243; icon_color=&#8221;#e2e2e2&#8243; icon_placement=&#8221;left&#8221; image_icon_width=&#8221;33px&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _dynamic_attributes=&#8221;title&#8221; header_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_font_size=&#8221;20px&#8221; body_text_color=&#8221;#967b5d&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px|&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||26px|||&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; header_font_size_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; header_font_size_phone=&#8221;18px&#8221; header_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; icon_font_size=&#8221;33px&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; icon_color__hover=&#8221;#13204d&#8221; icon_color__hover_enabled=&#8221;on&#8221; theme_builder_area=&#8221;post_content&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>In &#8220;A crazy brief presentation of early Dzogchen Translators&#8221; Paul, a translator himself, talk about Lishu Tagring, Bairotsana, Padmasambhava.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Testimonials&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; use_background_color_gradient=&#8221;on&#8221; background_color_gradient_direction=&#8221;90deg&#8221; background_color_gradient_stops=&#8221;#ffffff 70%|#ffd62f 70%&#8221; background_color_gradient_start=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; background_color_gradient_start_position=&#8221;70%&#8221; background_color_gradient_end=&#8221;#ffc077&#8243; background_color_gradient_end_position=&#8221;0%&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||3px|||&#8221; background_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; background_color_gradient_stops_phone=&#8221;#ffffff 95%|#ffc077 95%&#8221; background_color_gradient_start_position_phone=&#8221;95%&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; max_width=&#8221;900px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/magazine-18.png&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||50px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Cardo||||||||&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#2a2a2a&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;42px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.4em&#8221; text_font_size_tablet=&#8221;36px&#8221; text_font_size_phone=&#8221;24px&#8221; text_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Back to the 8th century in the Himalayas, a Dzogchen master called Padmasambhava was around, and he had among his disciples a sacred bunch of cool guys, who were doing translations and crazy things (&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; max_width=&#8221;600px&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>The first Dzogchen translator was, in human memory, Manjushri-Who-Protects-from-fear. He translated three Dzogchen tantras in the language of <span class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-token-index=\"1\" data-reactroot=\"\">garudas<\/span>: this is a language inspirated from the whispers and whistles of the wind. I\u2019d like to learn this one. That Manjushri was one of the twelve great Dzogchen instructors, at the beginning of time, we don\u2019t have much archives. But there are a few infos <a class=\"notion-link-token notion-enable-hover\" href=\"https:\/\/tibetantreasures.com\/products\/a-marvelous-garland-of-rare-gems?variant=13791412060223\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-token-index=\"3\" data-reactroot=\"\"><span class=\"link-annotation-unknown-block-id-279617537\">in this book on biographies of Dzogchen masters<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Images&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_4,1_2,1_4&#8243; use_custom_gutter=&#8221;on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;100%&#8221; max_width=&#8221;100%&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;right&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||50px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Lishu-Tagring.jpeg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;Lishu-Tagring&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;300px||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Vairotsana.webp&#8221; title_text=&#8221;Vairotsana&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_2,1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||50px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Then comes my favourite translator, Lishu Tagring. There, we have dates, hold on tight : he was born in 1751 BCE and said to have disappeared having reached the age of 2500 years. Did you count? Yes, in 749 CE! Skeptics would argue it\u2019s mostly unprobable, I would reply it\u2019s utmostly fun. Lishu Tagring spoke 360 languages, travelled a lot and brought back to Tibet, India and Shang Shung thousands of teachings on the nature of mind. <a class=\"notion-link-token notion-enable-hover\" href=\"https:\/\/www.shenten.org\/les-grands-maitres-du-b%C3%B6n?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-token-index=\"1\" data-reactroot=\"\"><span class=\"link-annotation-unknown-block-id-745446454\">Here you can unravel some mysteries of his life.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Then we have a more famous guy : Bairotsana. He translated many texts, but Bairo was really fond of the space series, one of <span class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-token-index=\"1\" data-reactroot=\"\">the three series of Dzogchen teachings<\/span>. He was also a teacher with tremendous goodness : he taught an eighty years old man, who practiced his teachings and achieve <span class=\"notion-enable-hover\" data-token-index=\"3\" data-reactroot=\"\">rainbow body<\/span>. You can find one English translation from his works <a class=\"notion-link-token notion-enable-hover\" href=\"http:\/\/keithdowman.net\/books\/vairotsana-original-perfection-eye-of-the-storm.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-token-index=\"5\" data-reactroot=\"\"><span class=\"link-annotation-unknown-block-id--1347898557\">over there<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;2_3,1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;50px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;2_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; max_width=&#8221;500px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; 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