{"id":62000,"date":"2024-05-22T08:00:58","date_gmt":"2024-05-22T06:00:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/?p=62000"},"modified":"2024-05-21T09:52:25","modified_gmt":"2024-05-21T07:52:25","slug":"the-reality-of-the-gesture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/the-reality-of-the-gesture\/","title":{"rendered":"The Reality of the Gesture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; background_color_gradient_direction=&#8221;75deg&#8221; background_image=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/concreteBackground.png&#8221; height=&#8221;250px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||true|false&#8221; locked=&#8221;on&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; 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module_alignment=&#8221;left&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|tablet&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;29px||29px||true|&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; quote_font_size_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; quote_font_size_phone=&#8221;&#8221; quote_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<h2>The reality of the gesture<\/h2>\n<p>After \u201c<a class=\"notion-link-token notion-focusable-token notion-enable-hover\" href=\"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/the-dynamics-of-the-gesture\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-token-index=\"1\"><span class=\"link-annotation-unknown-block-id--23175714\">The dynamics of the gesture<\/span><\/a>\u201d and \u201c<a class=\"notion-link-token notion-focusable-token notion-enable-hover\" href=\"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/i-do-therefore-i-am\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-token-index=\"3\"><span class=\"link-annotation-unknown-block-id--2053480841\">I do therefore I am<\/span><\/a>\u201d, this article is the third in the &#8221; spirit of gesture &#8221; series.<!-- notionvc: d7d2ef89-17b6-4d3f-b548-2de378cfa61f --><\/p>\n<p>If a gesture can be spontaneous and can define me, what about its reality?<\/p>\n<p>We all make gestures, we all have actions, we all give meaning to &#8220;our&#8221; gestures, or we use these gestures to give meaning to reality. It seems normal, even trivial, completely integrated into our program. We generally never question the nature of the gesture itself.<\/p>\n<p>But what if, as Dzogchen invites us to do, we did?<\/p>\n<p>Questioning the nature of the reality of gesture requires, first and foremost, hindsight and a keen sense of direct observation. First of all, what do we know about an action or gesture? That it is repeated ad infinitum. If we take a typical day in our lives, we will see that it&#8217;s a bevy of gestures and actions that follow one another from morning to evening and even into the night. So much so, in fact, that we can&#8217;t even remember the trivial gestures we made this morning, drowned out by all the gestures we made that day. The reality of the gesture? A little blurred in the mass&#8230; So what I think is real at the moment I&#8217;m doing it, experiencing it, fades quickly after it&#8217;s done.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #bf9e77;\">&#8220;For these two sister traditions, the real nature of gesture is <strong>apparent but non-existent<\/strong>.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>As for the meaning the gesture seems to carry, does it itself carry it? Does my gesture have meaning, or do I give it meaning? On closer inspection, I realize that it&#8217;s my ability to comment, my concepts, that &#8220;make&#8221; my gesture think, that give it a reality that it may not have at the Base. So what I do is conditioned by what I think.<\/p>\n<p>We all know this: I think about doing, but I don&#8217;t do to think. So, thought before action.<\/p>\n<p>What then of the &#8220;natural&#8221;, unconditioned reality of gesture or action?<\/p>\n<p>It is emptiness, empty of its own existence.<\/p>\n<p><!-- notionvc: 770b38f1-1fc9-4227-a9c1-07628b2c1de6 --><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/la-realite-du-geste.jpg&#8221; alt=&#8221;dzogchentoday-reality-gesture-2&#8243; title_text=&#8221;The Reality of the Gesture&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.1&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;67%&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; box_shadow_style=&#8221;preset2&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text quote_border_weight=&#8221;0px&#8221; quote_border_color=&#8221;rgba(0,0,0,0)&#8221; module_id=&#8221;up2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.1&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Montserrat||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; link_font=&#8221;Montserrat|700||||||#000000|&#8221; link_text_color=&#8221;#BF9E77&#8243; link_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; link_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; quote_font=&#8221;Cormorant Garamond|700|||||||&#8221; quote_text_color=&#8221;#13204d&#8221; quote_line_height=&#8221;1.3em&#8221; header_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;Quattrocento Sans|700|||||||&#8221; header_2_text_color=&#8221;#13204d&#8221; header_2_line_height=&#8221;1.6em&#8221; header_3_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_3_text_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; header_4_letter_spacing=&#8221;12px&#8221; header_5_font=&#8221;|300|||||||&#8221; header_5_text_color=&#8221;#bfbfbf&#8221; header_5_letter_spacing=&#8221;12px&#8221; header_6_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_6_letter_spacing=&#8221;12px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;left&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|tablet&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;29px|||||&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; quote_font_size_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; quote_font_size_phone=&#8221;&#8221; quote_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s borrow from the Mah\u0101y\u0101na Sutras, the Buddha&#8217;s most essential statement on the subject: &#8220;Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. Emptiness is nothing but form, form is nothing but emptiness.&#8221; <a href=\"#down\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0Thus, for the Buddhist tradition, the primordial, fundamental meaning of gesture, of action, is inherently empty. This is its true &#8220;meaning&#8221;: it carries nothing, it is not carried by anything, it is not attached to a self, nor is it conditioned by anything else. It is free, pure and spontaneously accomplished. It is enlightenment. That is the nature of gesture.<\/p>\n<p>The Dzogchen is not left out:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The example is that of a drawing on water: Natural, emergence and liberation are uninterrupted; All emergence is the raw nourishment of primordial evidence-vacuity, All movement is the dynamic of the sovereign Body of Reality, Without trace, naturally pure, ah la la!&#8221; <a href=\"#down\">[2]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>For these two sister traditions, the real nature of gesture is <strong>apparent but non-existent<\/strong>. Being non-existent, it is not limited, and can extend to the farthest reaches of space. Being apparent, its true nature can be seen by all.<\/p>\n<p>It is <a href=\"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/the-enlightened-activity\/\">the awakened activity<\/a>, the gesture, the action, of the great Beings of Enlightenment, the Bodhisattvas.<\/p>\n<p>This is the pure, universal gesture to which we aspire on the path to Great Perfection.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_divider color=&#8221;#FFD62F&#8221; divider_position=&#8221;center&#8221; divider_weight=&#8221;3px&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_divider][et_pb_text module_id=&#8221;down&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.1&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Montserrat||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.4em&#8221; link_font=&#8221;Montserrat|700|||||||&#8221; link_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; link_line_height=&#8221;1.4em&#8221; 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