{"id":59414,"date":"2023-10-25T09:00:46","date_gmt":"2023-10-25T07:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/?p=59414"},"modified":"2023-10-23T19:59:28","modified_gmt":"2023-10-23T17:59:28","slug":"karma-and-justice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/karma-and-justice\/","title":{"rendered":"Karma and justice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_image=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/dzogchentoday-Karma-and-justice1.jpg&#8221; min_height=&#8221;423.3px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||-151px|||&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||346px|||&#8221; collapsed=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_3,2_3&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Ligne&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; 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icon_color=&#8221;#e2e2e2&#8243; icon_placement=&#8221;left&#8221; image_icon_width=&#8221;33px&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _dynamic_attributes=&#8221;title&#8221; header_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_font_size=&#8221;20px&#8221; body_text_color=&#8221;#967b5d&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px|&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||26px|||&#8221; header_font_size_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; header_font_size_phone=&#8221;18px&#8221; header_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; icon_font_size=&#8221;33px&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; icon_color__hover=&#8221;#13204d&#8221; icon_color__hover_enabled=&#8221;on&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>In this article \u00ab Karma and justice \u00bb Gr\u00e9goire asks whether justice is the same as karma, and if suffering and injustice are Great Perfection.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_blurb][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;5px||0px|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; min_height=&#8221;69px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|auto|-55px|auto||&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px|||||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2>Karma and justice<\/h2>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text quote_border_weight=&#8221;0px&#8221; 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But what does that mean when wars rage, millions starve or tornadoes and hurricanes indiscriminately sweep away every living being ?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps such perfection would be easier to find on my own small scale? Nothing is certain&#8230; My computer has been stolen, along with the fruits of my hard labor. It&#8217;s so unfair! Where is this Great Perfection?<\/p>\n<p>Perfection, Great Perfection, did you say?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/fr\/creations-karmiques\/\">It&#8217;s your <em>karma<\/em><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/karmic-creations\/\">, old chap<\/a>, my Buddhist friends reply in unison. <em>Bad karma<\/em>, they say. It must be your actions in your past lives&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>So there&#8217;s a form of justice inherent in every action; is that what <em>karma<\/em> is all about? Nothing happens by chance. Every act has consequences, which become the causes of future acts, which themselves have consequences, indefinitely. This mechanism, without beginning or end would give shape to our reality, including wars &#8211; and since everything is &#8220;interdependent&#8221;&#8230; wars would also be because of us?! Not so fast&#8230;<\/p>\n<div>\u00a0<\/div>\n<div>\u00a0<\/div>\n<div>\u00a0<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Quattrocento Sans|600||on|||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;|600|||||||&#8221; header_2_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center\"><span style=\"font-size: x-large\"><em><span style=\"color: #bf9e77\">&#8220;For even if suffering is very real for the person experiencing it, this difficulty is also in itself a path, a path towards liberation and the realization of the Great Perfection.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_2,1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||21px|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Montserrat||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>Without going into the intricacies of the many theories of karma, here are a few definitions from Professor Cornu: <em>karma<\/em> is a specific case of conditional co-production concerning sentient beings. <em>Karma<\/em> is any intentional act done to reinforce the illusion of the &#8220;self&#8221;. Is that clear? For more details, take a look at his excellent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.librairie-gallimard.com\/livre\/9782020822732-dictionnaire-encyclopedique-du-bouddhisme-philippe-cornu\/\">encyclopedic dictionary<\/a> &#8211; don&#8217;t be afraid, it won&#8217;t hurt&#8230; unless it falls on your foot!<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Montserrat||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>In short, justice, the cardinal notion of Abrahamic traditions and secularized worlds, is a bit like <em>karma<\/em> for some Asian traditions. Except that with <em>karma<\/em>, there is no judge outside ourselves; that it&#8217;s not just a question of economic and social justice, but rather a form of &#8220;cosmic&#8221; justice &#8211; if you&#8217;ll pardon the expression &#8211; i.e., it takes into consideration all beings and elements of the cosmos, of &#8220;nature&#8221;; and above all, that with karma, <em>intention<\/em> &#8211; i.e., a form of activity of the mind &#8211; is what matters and is even more important than the act itself.<\/p>\n<p>But is this also what the Dzogchen, the Great Perfection, says?<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;3px||0px|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/dzogchentoday-Karma-and-justice2.jpg&#8221; alt=&#8221;dzogchentoday-Karma and justice&#8221; title_text=&#8221;dzogchentoday-Karma and justice&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;99%&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; height=&#8221;388px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-6px|||||&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;20px||0px|||&#8221; box_shadow_style=&#8221;preset2&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text quote_border_weight=&#8221;0px&#8221; quote_border_color=&#8221;rgba(0,0,0,0)&#8221; module_id=&#8221;back-top&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Montserrat||||||||&#8221; link_font=&#8221;|100|||on|||#000000|&#8221; link_text_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; quote_font=&#8221;Cormorant Garamond|700|||||||&#8221; quote_text_color=&#8221;#bf9e77&#8243; quote_line_height=&#8221;1.3em&#8221; header_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_3_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; header_3_text_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; header_4_letter_spacing=&#8221;12px&#8221; header_5_font=&#8221;|300|||||||&#8221; header_5_text_color=&#8221;#bfbfbf&#8221; header_5_letter_spacing=&#8221;12px&#8221; header_6_font=&#8221;Montserrat|700|||||||&#8221; header_6_letter_spacing=&#8221;6px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; quote_font_size_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; quote_font_size_phone=&#8221;&#8221; quote_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>It agrees with certain Asian traditions in that it cannot envisage the perfection of reality from the point of view of a single existence. It is over countless lifetimes that the &#8220;justice&#8221; of <em>karma<\/em> is achieved. A negative act commited today will not necessarily have repercussions in this lifetime; perhaps that&#8217;s why I, who am beyond reproach and so blameless &#8211; yes, I am, I promise! &#8211; will have my computer stolen when my car is broken into\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Look in this body at your deeds of yesteryear; And in your present deeds at the place where you will be reborn\u201d, says Patrul Rinpoche. <em>Karma<\/em> is like our shadow that never leaves us. It follows us even when we die&#8230; and was with us when we were born!<\/p>\n<p>But Dzogchen, as always, goes a step further. It&#8217;s simpler, and primordial. From its perspective, quite simply, <em>karma<\/em> doesn&#8217;t really exist. But then, we can do whatever we want in the Great Perfection &#8211; have fun and enjoy ourselves, and even steal, kill, etc.? Well, how shall I put it?<\/p>\n<p>For Dzogchen, <em>karma<\/em> is a view of the mind (<em>vue de l\u2019esprit<\/em>, a French play on words), a relative perspective on reality. The world we normally perceive is like a reflection in a mirror. It is not the nature of the mirror itself. Everything in it appears as a magical and deceptive illusion. Thus <em>karma<\/em> and its causality are merely the play of appearances. They are not ultimately, primordially, real.<\/p>\n<p>For in the Dzogchen tradition, the ultimate nature of reality &#8211; that of our own mind &#8211; is empty and luminous. That&#8217;s something! Like the nature of a mirror, it is untainted by the play of appearances that unfold within it &#8211; whether these are considered good (a moment of sweet relaxation on a sunny beach) or bad (a scene of bombing with corpses strewn everywhere). Reality is primordially pure &#8211; <em>ka dag<\/em> &#8211; and spontaneously fulfilled &#8211; <em>lhun grub &#8211;<\/em>, but it is also sovereign manifestation or unstoppable compassion &#8211; <em>thugs rje &#8216;gags med<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;3px||0px|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dzogchentoday.org\/wp-dzogtodaychen-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/dzogchentoday-Karma-and-justice3.jpg&#8221; alt=&#8221;dzogchentoday-Karma and justice&#8221; title_text=&#8221;dzogchentoday-Karma and justice&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; height=&#8221;388px&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;20px|||||&#8221; box_shadow_style=&#8221;preset2&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_2,1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.23&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Montserrat||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>Everything that unfolds is a manifestation of the Base. Everything! &#8211; good and bad&#8230; and even terrible; pleasant and unpleasant&#8230; and even unbearable. From the Base &#8211; the absolute &#8211; all appearances &#8211; the relative &#8211; are manifested. And rather than using a somewhat linear, mechanical karmic causality to explain the appearance of phenomena, Dzogchen emphasizes the &#8220;spontaneity&#8221; of the emergence of reality in each moment: the <em>lhun grub<\/em> aspect of manifestation. Everything that appears is perfect, primordially empty and luminous, and unfolds spontaneously. So, ultimately, everything is perfect &#8211; including wars. 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